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Post#1  Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:38 pm  Reply with quote +
Hello everyone. I figured since I post randomly with my discoveries and random shares of all things Bomberman, I would just make a master thread for my obsession. In this thread I'll dump random things with time I learn or discover and want to share with you all.

Lately I've been playing the MSX Bomberman games and I've learned many new and strange things about that game. So now I am here (and with GIFs!) to show you all how bizarre that game really is. EDIT: This post now has better quality GIFs!

For those who may not be aware, this is Bomberman, released for the MSX (don't worry, you're not missing much.)

[Expand] Bomberman (MSX)


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Post#2  Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:52 pm  Reply with quote +
Thank you so much for doing this write-up! :veryhappy: 

I never got very far in this game, due to the controls and odd bomb placement rules. I hadn't even considered the advantage of blowing up half of a soft block. That's pretty interesting.

The weirdest item has got to be that TNT mug. What is even going on there...?
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Post#3  Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:33 pm  Reply with quote +
Thanks for the write-up! That half-block mechanic could be interesting if applied to a modern Bomberman game.
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Post#4  Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:35 am  Reply with quote +
It's the deepest analysis I've ever seen, I really did not know most of those details

PS: one of the images does not work
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Post#5  Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:07 am  Reply with quote +
SailorBomber wrote:
It's the deepest analysis I've ever seen, I really did not know most of those details

PS: one of the images does not work

I was editing that post at the time. I recorded some better GIFs to put up there. It should be all good now.
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Post#6  Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 3:47 pm  Reply with quote +
Greetings all! It's time for more stuff I learned from MSX Bomberman games! This one will be a bit shorter but this post will show a few things on Bomberman MSX and some on Bomberman Special for MSX. Let's get into it!

[Expand] Bomberman (MSX)

That completes my coverage of Bomberman MSX for now. Next I decided to torture myself by playing through all 50 levels of Bomberman Special on MSX. Basically it's just a poor man's version of Bomberman NES.

[Expand] Bomberman Special (MSX)

Well that's all I've got for now. Next game on the list is Bomber King for MSX and we'll see how that one turns out. Thanks for reading Bomber pals! :happy: 


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Post#7  Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 3:55 pm  Reply with quote +
Thanks so much, again! :veryhappy: 

...Wow, those enemies look freaky when their white parts disappear. It's like Bomberman horror edition. I wonder why that happens. They must reach some position or other situation where the game can't draw that portion for some reason.

I also wonder why the last stage is altered so (and whether any other stages are altered), and also why they felt the need to title it "Special" when it seems more like a downgraded port. Maybe they were trying to differentiate it from the earlier Bomber Man?
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Post#8  Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 4:42 pm  Reply with quote +
Greeting Bomber pals! I've been steadily dedicating my time to playing through the more mundane titles in the Bomberman collection. This time, we've got Bomber King for the MSX.

[Expand] Bomber King (MSX)

Thanks for reading and until next time I find random stuff to share, stay beautiful bomber pals.
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Post#9  Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 4:53 pm  Reply with quote +
Awesome. Thanks for running this one too.

I can only imagine how difficult it must be playing through the whole thing on the MSX. The Famicom version is already super hard. I don't know if you've ever tried one of the Western releases on the NES, but they greatly decreased the difficulty and made it generally, well, more playable.

...It truly is a good thing you had save states lol.
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Post#10  Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:01 pm  Reply with quote +
Oohh, that's pretty cool to see the MSX Bombermans, with gifs to boot too! Always interesting to see.

Gosh, Bomberking sounds and looks like a journey and a half. >.<
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Post#11  Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:40 pm  Reply with quote +
Thanks for the comments! A lot of this research is just free time. I've always been interested digging into old Bomberman games. It's like I'm some kind of researcher looking for very niche information.

It is pretty boring grinding through these games but making these posts gives me a lot of satisfaction. I'll post a big file at some point with all the GIFs/mp4s so you guys can enjoy.

I'm still digging deeper into emulation and looking for really obscure ports and games. I haven't even touched Lode Runner ports yet...
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Post#12  Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:49 pm  Reply with quote +
Greetings Bomber pals! Apparently I have nothing better to do, so here's more stuff I wanted to share. Today we're going to be talking about Bomberman Special a bit, Bomberman for the ZX Spectrum, and Bomberman for the X68000. This post will be a bit light and is mostly funny/unusual things I witnessed. Let's get started!

[Expand] Bomberman Special (MSX)

That aside, let's talk about the ZX Spectrum game of Bomberman. It's nearly identical to Bomberman for MSX where you play as a human man with a hat, walking around and killing balloons. In fact, the title screen can show you the majority of differences with these games.

[Expand] Bomberman (ZX Spectrum)

Now finally we have Bomberman for the X68000. I tell you, emulating this stuff is taking me to some weird and untranslated places on the internet. Hopefully I don't get swallowed up by a foreign virus!

[Expand] Bomberman (X68000)

I may return to this title and play it through, but for now I'm good on my self torture quota. That's all I have for now. Join me next post when I delve into 3D Bomberman for the MSX cause it's gonna be a doosy!
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Post#13  Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:04 am  Reply with quote +
You are the chosen one.

The one gifted with the ability to play through and document unreasonably difficult and lackluster old Bomberman ports.

What more is there to say? Thanks for the dizzying amount of info being dumped into this topic. :stun: 
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Truly, you are doing the Angel's work. I could barely stand five seconds of an emulation of the first NES game.
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Post#15  Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:49 pm  Reply with quote +
Thank you for the kind comments everyone! The games might be a grind but showing off my discoveries makes me very happy. I'm just glad I have someone to share all this stuff with!

Now then, it's time to discuss our last Bomberman game for MSX (assuming I'm not missing something) which is 3D Bomberman.

[Expand] 3D Bomberman (MSX)


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Post#16  Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:56 pm  Reply with quote +
I remember seeing this before
And it's still as terrifying as last time! ;_;

On another note, they become a bit funnier/scarier if you imagine them playing the Chain Chomp's soundeffects. :3
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Post#17  Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:39 pm  Reply with quote +
Nice. Yeah, it sounds like they didn't test the difficulty scaling and just set it to loop forever. Not uncommon at the time. That's crazy that it gets so hard so quickly into the game, though.

The tank-like controls in this game make it nigh impossible for me to navigate without a lot of practice... :stun: 

And the faces on those enemies are the stuff of nightmares. :shock: 
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Post#18  Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:17 pm  Reply with quote +
These games do have a steep and weird learning curve. It takes a while to adapt to them, and even longer to learn from them, if you can find the patience.

Anywho, I have been summoned once more bomber pals, to learn what I can of Bomberman for the Sharp MZ-700.

[Expand] Bomberman (Sharp MZ-700)

I have a few more things I plan on sharing in the near future but as far as old ports, I may be at my limit. Finding these roms and emulators has been a chore and it's getting so obscure that I cannot seem to find any kind of preservation. If I can turn up anything, you better believe there'll be GIFs to share, but for now, I am satisfied.

My focus is going to shift to a few more modern titles so I'm going to try to keep picking at the obscure titles and shedding light on them. I'm preparing a big file for download with all the GIFs and pictures I took so don't worry about saving them all individually.

Thanks as always pals and I'll be back with something else random for you to enjoy. Take care.
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Post#19  Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:29 pm  Reply with quote +
Awesome.

Those exits remind me of the houses from Monopoly. :laugh: 

There is something oddly satisfying about those explosion effects...

I guess pound signs were the best way they could differentiate the two block types, given the lack of graphical capability (though I suppose that they could have just had a different colour for the soft blocks)... #softblocklife

I wonder why the auto bomb stage mechanic is missing. Surely that alone wouldn't have been too large of an addition to fit into the game...? Though, without it, I imagine the game wouldn't be so difficult.
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Post#20  Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 5:18 am  Reply with quote +
Hey hey bomberpals! I'm back with more GIFs and random stuff for you to enjoy. This time I played through Bakufuu Sentai Bomberman for the PSP. Now what is this strange game you may ask? Well, it's basically Power Rangers/Super Sentai meets Bomberman.

[Expand] Bakufuu Sentai Bomberman (PSP)
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