And the Super Bomberman 3 guide. This one was easy to scan right until the last few pages, though it didn't come out too bad. There's an awesome plasticine Pretty Bomber on the 37th image.
Good grief, how much awesome can fit into just one person?!
Unfortunately, Denshi Jisho is down, which kind of put my examination of all this on hold. I was working with the Super Bomberman 3 and 4 mangas from the game manuals, blanking out text and all, but there are a couple of panels I'm still having trouble with due to some of the text being overlayed in front of artwork instead of in speech bubbles or boxes. I'll try to get some mangas translated and stuff soon!
Also yeah, nice Pretty Bomber model on that page. Standing on a soft block. Makes me want to try carving Bomberman figures again.
Thanks again for taking the time to scan all of this! Hopefully someday we will have this stuff translated (scanlated?) and put forth into the public.
It's not finished, but I thought I'd share what little I've done of the Bomberman Land guide. The book just fits in my scanner bed, so it's nowhere near as clean or as comprehensive as I'd like it to be - I'll go back to it after I've finished it so I can the artwork scanned in better.
In a vaguely related tangent, I've been interested in trying to pick up a few games and/or books from Amazon.co.jp (there's good stuff going for very cheap - that Bomberman Quest guidebook will be mine!!), and there's a fair few online services made for buying stuff from Japanese stores and sending it overseas to you. The problem is that they're all very vague about the costs, and it looks like you don't find out the total sum unti afterl you order, which is something I'm always a bit iffy about. Don't suppose anyone has had any experience with this sort of thing?
As for the Bomberman Quest guidebook - first of all, man, I didn't know there were guidebooks for all these Bomberman games. But we could sure use some color artwork of the Commanders, since all I've seen were small images on the Hudson page.
As for vague prices... I don't know. Anytime I've bought something from overseas, the price is clear. I've only bought from Amazon.com a couple of times, though, and it wasn't overseas stuff.
I haven't really done anything with translating in a long time. I'm kind of busy with other things at the moment. I'm not sure what will happen here but I guess I will find time. Don't count on me, though! I'm not as dependable a person as people might think. I won't stop translating, but I won't necessarily work as often as I did when I started this topic.
Here's the rest of the book (as of this writing it's still uploading). Apparently the game itself has some 4-koma in an unlockable gallery, so I'm sure you'll be interested in getting your hands on those. =P
On the subject of translations, does the Schumuvault (the Hige Hige Bandits' fortress) from the Jetters anime show up in any of the video games? I'm just curious if there's ever been an 'official' (ie. not a fansub) translation of it, as the fansub uses "Schumulvault", Wikipedia uses "Schnurrbart", and a direct transliteration is "Shunurubaruto". I would personally go for Schumulvault, but you know me, I'm a bit of a stickler when it comes to translating names.
I have no idea about the "Shunurubaruto". It doesn't ever appear in any Bomberman games that I am familiar with, including Saturn Bomberman (I mention that because it has two villains who end up in Jetters). Bagura's ship is a "Battleship" in the third game, he resides in "Hyperspace" (I think, can't remember) in the fourth, and of course has the Garaden empire on his side in Hero. Then there's the whole "Dark Force" thing in Wars and World. I guess consistency isn't a big deal to Bagura?
I can sort of see the "vault" thing as making sense, in that this base is where Bagura stores all of the stuff that he steals. What on earth "shunuru" could mean is a mystery to me, and evidently to those who did the fansub.
For reference, I dug up the Katakana spelling in case anyone in the future would like to try their hand at figuring it out:
シュヌルバルト
That Bomberman Land game... that was never released outside of Japan, was it? That will make for some interesting information.
Yeah, that's Bomberman Land 1 for the PS1. They also made Bomberman Land 2 for the GCN and PS2, and then Bomberman Land 3 for just the PS2. None of them were released outside Japan.
After looking through the pages of the guide, I noticed that a lot of the mini-games from the later Bomberman Land titles actually first appeared as early as the first game. Geez, Hudson sure is lazy. 9_9
It doesn't ever appear in any Bomberman games that I am familiar with, including Saturn Bomberman[...]
Well, crap, there goes the primary reason I started my Saturn Bomberman coverage!
The Bomberman Jetters soundtrack arrived today, and... well, yeah, it's a soundtrack. If you're interested I scannedthelinernotes, but I wouldn't consider this top-priority stuff. I've translated the song titles though there's a couple that are a bit iffy - "A Little Memory of a Small Time" and "I'm At The Edge Of A Cliff" are the best I can make of them, and every other site ever just transliterates them ("Boku Wa Gappuchi" or whatever).
Holy crap, you're just a wealth of resources! You're really quick at collecting this stuff!
It looks like you've got the song names right; I just went through them anyway since I don't feel like doing whatever it is that I'm supposed to be doing. I'm unsure as to how you got "and the crew" out of the title for number 26. It looks to me like "Shout's Off-Time", but maybe I'm missing something?
I'm almost sure that one letter of that title meant "gang" or something like that, like "Shout and the gang", but yeah, I think that one could do with a second attempt. (Don't forget that Google Translate, although it generally gets the best results, seem to skip over a few letters/words if it can't translate them properly, at least from my experience)
Well, I've fallen behind as usual, but I don't have much to say other than thank you and congrats on bringing so much stuff to the community!
That SBMan2 guide in particular... the little intro manga seems better than that in the manual. It's almost a wetdream for fans of the Shiro-Pretty pairing *lol*
I mean, she gets wooed and frees him right in front of the others (and Shiro seems kinda sorry about stabbing her in the back immediately thereafter), how awesome is that?
The only bad thing is how they capture him. One bomb to the head? That's it? Meh...
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Okay, I've been trying to translate this Super Bomberman 2 game guide story manga tonight, and of course I'm having difficulty because I suck at translating Japanese dialouge. But there is some weird stuff going on... Plasma Bomber and Pretty Bomber seem to call Bomberman "older brother", and then Pretty Bomber seems to call Plasma Bomber "older brother", but then almost immediately we see Pretty Bomber flirting with Bomberman and releasing him from his cage, and then after Magnet Bomber "dies" Pretty Bomber seems to refer to him as "older brother". "Older brother", or 兄さん, keeps showing up in the text alot, and I'm almost positive that everyone is everyone else's older brother, yes even Pretty Bomber. [/sarcasm]
Also there's mention of brainwashing and "mind control", Bomber cyborgs and prototypes and whatnot. I've only gotten to the third page, then I skimmed through the rest of the pages a little.
You guys might find these interesting, though - descriptive dialouge boxes from the second page, third panel:
ゴ-レムボンバ-
怪力無双の大男
Golem Bomber - Giant of unrivaled physical strength
ブレインボンバ-
リモコン爆弾を
開発した
天才科学者
Brain Bomber - The genius scientist who developed the remote control bomb
プリテイ-ボンバ-
5人衆の紅一点
ハ-ト型爆弾
をつかう
Pretty Bomber - The lone woman of the Fiendish Bomber 5, she uses heart type bombs
プラズマボンバ-
5人衆のリ-ダ-
ボム投げの名手
Plasma Bomber - The leader of the Fiendish Bomber 5, master of bomb throwing
Poor Magnet Bomber doesn't get much of a description... Brain Bomber's description is interesting, though, as it clearly labels him as a scientist and also the inventor of remote bombs, apparantly.
I'll come back tomorrow or later and have a full transcription of the manga. Not necessarily a full translation, but a transcription.
Neat stuff! I've been meaning to go through the Super Bomberman 4 guide and transcribe the good parts, but I've been a little busy with other things lately.
Game guides for Fantasy Race, Max and Story/Tournament arrived today. The Fantasy Race guide is the only one with 4-koma, sadly, and the Max guide is the only book so far that reads from right-to-left, with the front cover on the "back", which is vaguely interesting. The Tournament guide has names and artwork for every enemy in the game, and even has some decent artwork of Brain Bomber (the other Dastardly Bombers only have art of their mutated forms), so I'll probably scan through it first.
Oh, she's saying "Oni-chan". That's Japanese cutsey speak. Girls always call boys that when they want to be flirtatious. :P
Are you sure about that? She only says "あ兄さん" once, and 兄 is used in several other words as well. Plus, Magnet Bomber seems to say something like "lewd big brother" when referring to Bomberman talking to Pretty Bomber. Also, Magnet Bomber calls Bomberman "big brother" and Bomberman refers to himself as Magnet's older brother, and then in the final panel Pretty Bomber seems to refer to Magnet Bomber as big brother as well.
I'm guessing that the idea of Bomberman being referred to as a "brother" refers to the fact that, as Brain Bomber states, he's the "prototype, so to speak... of the Bomber Cyborg" or something to that effect. I'm also guessing that, as with everything else in Bomberman canon, this has been retconned or forgotten or whatever, otherwise the evident Bomberman + Pretty Bomber relationship in later games would be... really, really bizarre.
In any case, here's the full text, save for two characters that I couldn't make out. The first spoiler includes my notes and a few attempted translations, while the other is just the straight Japanese text.
Spoiler:
Page 6
[Panel 1]
SFX: ZZZZZUM!
地球にしのびよる
あやしげな宇宙船......
ボンバ-マンの身にったい何が
おころうとしていのか......!?
A mysterious spaceship approaches the Earth......
(don't know the second sentence)
[Panel 2]
地球到着マデ
アト1時間......
(roughly says "Arriving at Earth in 1 hour......")
PLASMA: ふっふっふ,
これが地球か......
[Panel 3]
SFX: SHINE!
PLASMA: われらが5人衆の兄,
ボンバ-マンの
住む地球か!
Page 7
[Panel 1]
SFX: SHOCK!
BOMBERMAN: な,なに~~~っ!!
おまえがオイラの
兄弟だって~~~!?
[Panel 2]
(Sign: ボンバ-マン)
(Door: おことわ[?]
おしろソ[?])
うそだ! そんな話,
はじめて間くぞ~~~!
[Panel 3]
(Shelf: 危_
ニトログリ
I think it says "Danger
Nitroglycerin", with the last half of "Nitroglycerin" being off-screen)
(Bag: おみやげ)
PRETTY: ホントウよ, 兄さん
あなたも私たちも
異星人につくられた
サイボ-グなの
BRAIN: あなたは
ボンバ-サイボ-グの
いわば試作品...
You are a prototype, so to speak... of the Bomber Cyborg
それゆえに記憶回路に
故障をおこし,そのことを
忘れておられる
PLASMA: 兄さん!!
われわれとともに
創造主のもとに
帰ろう!!
Older brother!! Together we will return to our creator!!
[Panel 1]
BOMBERMAN (thinking): なんてこった!
Jesus Christ!
やつらのねらいは
そこにあったのか!
(expresses surprise, like "that's what those guys are aiming for?")
なんとかしなくては!
[Panel 2]
BOMBERMAN: お~い♥
かわいい妹よ
Heyyy♥
Cute little sister
PRETTY: まあ兄さん
気がついたのね
(she says something about "big brother" and him regaining his consciousness... on a side note, this sibling talk is already starting to creep me out)
PRETTY: 兄さんを
倒すわ!!
(something like "You killed big brother!!"
...Although, Babelfish's translation is pretty hilarious
"Older brother falling down Good Heavens!!")
On a side note, I find it interesting that the Japanese Wikipedia entry for Super Bomberman 2 actually misspelled the name of Magnet Bomber's "personal jumbo murder machine". It's note "アイアンジーク (Aian Ji-ku)", it's "アイアンジ-グ (Aian Gi-gu)". Which seems to translate as "Iron Gigue".
Ragey wrote:
The Tournament guide has names and artwork for every enemy in the game, and even has some decent artwork of Brain Bomber (the other Dastardly Bombers only have art of their mutated forms), so I'll probably scan through it first.
It can be something that someone younger normally a kid can call someone older, likewise for the female version- it doesn't have to mean that they're related in anyway.
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Oh, that would make sense... well, I guess I will try to translate this whole thing, but it will take longer than usual since I'm going to want to get the hang of translating dialouge, so it'll be more accurate.
Yeah Zaphe, remember that episode in Jetters when Shirobon insisted to be that elephant charabom's older brother?
It's still extremely disturbing that Japanese flirt by calling each other little sister and big brother, but eh, that's Japan for you.
On a side note...
Quote:
PRETTY: 兄さんを
倒すわ!!
(something like "You killed big brother!!"
...Although, Babelfish's translation is pretty hilarious
"Older brother falling down Good Heavens!!")
Pretty:
OH MY GOD! He killed Magnet!
Plasma:
You bastard!
Golem:
Hey! I'm not fat!
Screw you guys, I'm going home.
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